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	<description>This blog covers work, thinking and experiences on design, design strategy and design research by Penny Hagen. I help organisations take a collaborative and participatory approach to the design &#38; implementation of new processes, strategy, services,  &#38; products.  The opinions shared here are solely my own.</description>
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		<title>By: Patti Anklam &#187; Socializing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti Anklam &#187; Socializing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] to interacting. Penny Hagen, who nicely ties together some of the definitional threads to provide A working definition of social media and why we couldn’t answer the question, captures thinking from Danah Boyd and Clay Shirky that suggests that social media is both about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The web as a social landscape &#171; Netcultures</title>
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		<dc:creator>The web as a social landscape &#171; Netcultures</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<description>Thanks for this Martin, I am sure (know) people had other responses too. Just didn&#039;t feel there was a sense of that at the time or after and also wanting to acknowledge that the subject deals with many things, meaning an answer yelled out in a bar (or in 140) hardly captures the diversity or complexity of what we are talking about. 

Thanks for presenting a marketing perspective here, and for making the necessary points to cluetrain. appreciated.  This is a good overview of motivators and activities, though from my perspective in no way &quot;wraps it up&quot; :) 

(Also is it possible for you to provide the source of your stats for the record)

Cheers
Penny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Martin, I am sure (know) people had other responses too. Just didn&#8217;t feel there was a sense of that at the time or after and also wanting to acknowledge that the subject deals with many things, meaning an answer yelled out in a bar (or in 140) hardly captures the diversity or complexity of what we are talking about. </p>
<p>Thanks for presenting a marketing perspective here, and for making the necessary points to cluetrain. appreciated.  This is a good overview of motivators and activities, though from my perspective in no way &#8220;wraps it up&#8221; <img src='http://www.smallfire.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>(Also is it possible for you to provide the source of your stats for the record)</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Penny</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ironic that as this topic is about social media (the first rule of which is listening) and that my own answer and perspective on this question which was provided in the Twitter stream during that event hasn&#039;t been picked up, remembered or archived! :D

Social media marketing (or what I and my colleagues like to call it - Social Influence Marketing SIM) is simply:

People having conversations online. (no rocket science)

More broadly speaking:

Social media is an umbrella term that defines the various activities that integrate technology, social interaction, and the construction of words, pictures, videos and audio.

To define it, you must first understand it!

Social media has come about as a result of the democratisation of &#039;information&#039; (which was foretold in the Cluetrain Manifesto back in 1999):

We have moved from an era of Information Asymmetry...
- Information was scarce 
- Customers were ill-informed
- Exchanges were monologues
- Marketing was “command-and-control”

...To Information Democracy 
- Information is ubiquitous
- Customers are well-informed
- Exchanges are conversations  
- Marketing is “connect-and-collaborate” 

I am constantly shocked at how many marketers don&#039;t know or understand WHY consumers participate in social media / social networking.

Why audiences participate in social networking:

Meet people - 78% join to communicate with existing colleagues or develop new acquaintances

Be entertained - 47% join in order to find entertaining content such as photos, music or videos

Learn something - 38% join to get information from other people about topics that hold particular interest to them

Influence others - 23% join to express their opinions in a forum where their ideas can be discussed or acted upon

More broadly they participate to:

Keep up friendships – Facebook is about connecting with people you know.
Make new friends – We’ve all heard stories of people hooking up on social networks.
Succumb to social pressure from existing friends – People in the groundswell want their friends there too.
Pay it forward – Having seen that a site is useful, you may be moved to contribute.
The altruistic impulse – People give blood because they think they should.
The prurient impulse – People are fascinating. Some are sexy, some are entertaining, and some, frankly, are stupid.
The creative impulse – Not everybody is a photographer, a writer, or a videographer, but for those who are, the web is perfect to show off their work.
The validation principle – People who post information on Yahoo! Answers or Intuit’s tax wiki would like to be seen as knowledgeable experts.
The affinity impulse – If your soccer team, your PTA, or your fellow Swans fans have connected online then you can join and connect with people who share your interests and concerns.

The first step towards success in any form of marketing is understanding your intended audience and then understanding that you are not your audience. This is why technology is, and should be the last determinant of social media planning &amp; execution, not the first.

More of my thoughts and insights on the move of marketing from a Monologue to Dialogue here - http://www.slideshare.net/martinwalsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic that as this topic is about social media (the first rule of which is listening) and that my own answer and perspective on this question which was provided in the Twitter stream during that event hasn&#8217;t been picked up, remembered or archived! <img src='http://www.smallfire.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Social media marketing (or what I and my colleagues like to call it &#8211; Social Influence Marketing SIM) is simply:</p>
<p>People having conversations online. (no rocket science)</p>
<p>More broadly speaking:</p>
<p>Social media is an umbrella term that defines the various activities that integrate technology, social interaction, and the construction of words, pictures, videos and audio.</p>
<p>To define it, you must first understand it!</p>
<p>Social media has come about as a result of the democratisation of &#8216;information&#8217; (which was foretold in the Cluetrain Manifesto back in 1999):</p>
<p>We have moved from an era of Information Asymmetry&#8230;<br />
- Information was scarce<br />
- Customers were ill-informed<br />
- Exchanges were monologues<br />
- Marketing was “command-and-control”</p>
<p>&#8230;To Information Democracy<br />
- Information is ubiquitous<br />
- Customers are well-informed<br />
- Exchanges are conversations<br />
- Marketing is “connect-and-collaborate” </p>
<p>I am constantly shocked at how many marketers don&#8217;t know or understand WHY consumers participate in social media / social networking.</p>
<p>Why audiences participate in social networking:</p>
<p>Meet people &#8211; 78% join to communicate with existing colleagues or develop new acquaintances</p>
<p>Be entertained &#8211; 47% join in order to find entertaining content such as photos, music or videos</p>
<p>Learn something &#8211; 38% join to get information from other people about topics that hold particular interest to them</p>
<p>Influence others &#8211; 23% join to express their opinions in a forum where their ideas can be discussed or acted upon</p>
<p>More broadly they participate to:</p>
<p>Keep up friendships – Facebook is about connecting with people you know.<br />
Make new friends – We’ve all heard stories of people hooking up on social networks.<br />
Succumb to social pressure from existing friends – People in the groundswell want their friends there too.<br />
Pay it forward – Having seen that a site is useful, you may be moved to contribute.<br />
The altruistic impulse – People give blood because they think they should.<br />
The prurient impulse – People are fascinating. Some are sexy, some are entertaining, and some, frankly, are stupid.<br />
The creative impulse – Not everybody is a photographer, a writer, or a videographer, but for those who are, the web is perfect to show off their work.<br />
The validation principle – People who post information on Yahoo! Answers or Intuit’s tax wiki would like to be seen as knowledgeable experts.<br />
The affinity impulse – If your soccer team, your PTA, or your fellow Swans fans have connected online then you can join and connect with people who share your interests and concerns.</p>
<p>The first step towards success in any form of marketing is understanding your intended audience and then understanding that you are not your audience. This is why technology is, and should be the last determinant of social media planning &amp; execution, not the first.</p>
<p>More of my thoughts and insights on the move of marketing from a Monologue to Dialogue here &#8211; <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/martinwalsh" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/martinwalsh</a></p>
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